afternic.com Banning sex and gambling

[Theo]

I believe GoDaddy's illustrious Bob Parsons was a pioneer in changing the DNS records of domains that even though they weren't hosted at his company, he had "moral" issues with.

Then of course he showed us lots of T&A at the Superbowl commercial.

 

[eq78]

He apparently has some new ones ready to go Acroplex that he said on his blog he may have even pushed too far it was funny reading some of these people don't like the word GIRL in the ad or in domains. Maybe Afternic will follow these people and eliminate all domains with the word Girl FunnyGirl.com get it out.

 

[acronym007]

You obviously have personal issues with both of these industries as you have previously stated so why not just leave it at that and move on?

Why try to turn your personal feelings about these industries into a business debate when you know nothing about them and can't even acknowledge their right to exist?

My personal feelings? LOL. I don't work for Afternic, do I? Well, you and Wall Street are on opposite sides of the fence. Wall Street hates those businesses, they love them behind closed doors but not in public. Walmart doesn't sell porn either, gee I wonder why? LOL. Listen, my personal feelings have nothing to do with Afternic's professional business decision. You act as if I had a say. I hate porn I won't lie but it's big business. I applaud any company's decision to get rid of it because it can change the overall view of comany's seriousness in the business community. I don't think porn is good for any business. Do you think Coldwell Banker or ERA or any other big real esate company could sell porn as a side business? Do you think that people would not use them because of their associations? As much as everyone thinks Afternic is going to close their doors after they get rid of porn names I think the opposite will happen. Wall Street and big business will take our industry more serious as we begin to clean up our act internally. I think this is good for all of us in the purest non-personal business sense. Cheers,

Acro

 

[JMJ]

Behind closed doors. So I guess it's ok if Haggard preaches against all things gay and even consults the White House on a weekly basis regarding those issues when he's on the clock but when he's off the clock he can smoke whatever pipe he wishes?

Call up any of those realtors or banks and tell them you want to finance your new stipclub or buy a property for it. I doubt there are going to be very many who hangup the phone on you.

 

[eq78]

I don't think porn is good for any business. Do you think Coldwell Banker or ERA or any other big real esate company could sell porn as a side business? Do you think that people would not use them because of their associations?
Acro

WHAT THE ? obviously a real estate company would not be in porn I mean a first grader would know that. I come from Wall Street and the adult business is nowhere near as frowned upon as it was 20 years ago. But obviously you cannot broadcast it you have to brown bag it. years ago people want to say the at At&T and other cable companies were in the Adult Business since they have Pay Per View and Satellite Programming. I have Comcast they offer me on demand channels of adult movies are they in the porn business? some may say no SOME fanatics like on this forum may say yes. I think Comcast and every other cable company doing ok.

WHo thinks Afternic will close its doors? I think a lot of domainers just don't like them like # 1 charging a membership for what every other company especially SEDO does for Free.

 

[David G]

I am strongly in favor of Afternic doing that which should help clean-up the domain business and make it more mainstream and better repute. That will help attract more business people and corporations to buying domains.

 

[RatherGood]

My personal feelings? LOL. I don't work for Afternic, do I? Well, you and Wall Street are on opposite sides of the fence. Wall Street hates those businesses, they love them behind closed doors but not in public. Walmart doesn't sell porn either, gee I wonder why? LOL. Listen, my personal feelings have nothing to do with Afternic's professional business decision. You act as if I had a say. I hate porn I won't lie but it's big business. I applaud any company's decision to get rid of it because it can change the overall view of comany's seriousness in the business community. I don't think porn is good for any business. Do you think Coldwell Banker or ERA or any other big real esate company could sell porn as a side business? Do you think that people would not use them because of their associations? As much as everyone thinks Afternic is going to close their doors after they get rid of porn names I think the opposite will happen. Wall Street and big business will take our industry more serious as we begin to clean up our act internally. I think this is good for all of us in the purest non-personal business sense. Cheers,

Acro

I didn't imply you had a say, or any connection with Afternic. You are however defending their decision and stance that anyone who gets involved in those industries is "unprofessional".

My previous point is that you are obviously blinded by an idealogical hatred of "porn and gambling" and can't seem to add much to the debate other then that. You even accused another poster with a differing opinion on the subject of being unable to live without porn and gambling.

As far as wall street goes, GM is one of the biggest profiteers of "evil porn" thanks to their holdings in VOD companies that stream porn to hotel rooms. There is no shortage of big players wallstreet and otherwise that have managed to get tied up in these industries in some way. I guess Afternic and yourself are more professional and much more attractive to investors than all these players.

"Coldwell banker selling porn on the side"? The topic at hand doesn't even concern the sale of porn its about the sale of adult and gambling DOMAIN NAMES.

 

[eq78]

Trader afternic has done nothing for the Domain Industry of any great degree.
I guess the person who has done the most to bring the Investment Community into the Domain Industry is Rick Schwartz who is no stranger to Adult Names.

 

[izoot]

What's the problem? I feel sorry for human being that can't leave without porn and gambling. So what if the whole resale industry shut it down, could you still make money on domains? Yup. Diversify your portfolio if that's you all you have. Cheers,

Acro

I'm sure these "Porn freaks and Gambling junkies" thank you for kind sympathies.

Where did anyone state they couldn't live without porn or gambling? You seem to be embellishing just a tad for dramatics or maybe projecting some personal issues with these things.

Why do you assume that all those that like looking at some porn or gambling or running those sites are deginerate addicts? Assumptions like that can be troublesome ... especially when many of those trying to pass judgements on those things end up being some of the worst offenders. Pedophile politians/clergy ect. Who never say a word of their indesrestions until they are caught red handed.

Its seems all to often lately that there are those people that will pass judgement on others for doing things, looking at things that they have no interest in or believe is wrong or unheathly. And because THOSE people think Porn and gambling is wrong or unmoral to THEM that means it must be eliminated for all.

The fact is ... like so many attempts to "wipe out" porn, gambling or even smoking its going to fail. Afternic not allowing Porn or Gambling names is not going to shut down the industries ... there are other sales resources and others will pop up to fill that niche.

Many here do have diversified portfolios .. you're making assumptions and trying to define whats right for others.

 

[PRED]

Great response Izoot! :grouphug:
Predator

 

[Theo]

Are there any specialized parking companies that cater to porn other than affiliates?

 

[izoot]

I am strongly in favor of Afternic doing that which should help clean-up the domain business and make it more mainstream and better repute. That will help attract more business people and corporations to buying domains.

How is Afternic going to "clean up" the domain business? Adult and Gambling domains maybe have a "moral" effect on some people and corporations it matters not to the corporation that is looking to brand a product/site/company or looking for investments. Why would any sane business owner/CEO forgoe buying that domain that is going to be THEIR presense on the web due to gambling or Porn domains being listed on the same site?

Here's a little story about one of those people passing "morale" judgements on others .. seems he's a hypocritcal liar. I don't think I nor anyone else should be judged by people like him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/04/national/main2153399.shtml

"The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign as leader of the New Life Church after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty "of sexually immoral conduct."

"Haggard immediately denied the allegations, but later acknowledged having paid the man for a massage and to provide methamphetamine. "



Added to that if something creates a positive cash flow legally it will always be attractive to corporations ... maybe not all ... but so what. Why do we or anyone have to please everyone?

What gives the domain industry a black eye are those that intentionally squat on trademarks to profit from through ppc/affiliate sales or in hopes of black mailing the tm owner out of money for it.

But has Afternic purged its tm issued names? Nope not that I've heard or seen. Guess those TM's are too profitable to Afternic to consider a moral issue.

Great response Izoot! :grouphug:
Predator

Gracias ... if ya really wanna see a post lests start one on the banning of smoking in public and the infringement of equal rights for all

( please please don't start the thread ... )

Are there any specialized parking companies that cater to porn other than affiliates?

I do beleive that I heard there were a couple of ppc co's that specialized in that tho I am at a loss for the names as I don't do much in that area. I thought that trafficclub was trying something to that effect awhile back. If you are really interested I will dig back and see if I can find the names.

 

[Theo]

Thanks izoot. The reason being, since the "generic" parking companies have substantially dropped the PPC maybe we should be looking into the industry's dedicated PPC companies.

 

[izoot]

Thanks izoot. The reason being, since the "generic" parking companies have substantially dropped the PPC maybe we should be looking into the industry's dedicated PPC companies.

If there is no "solid" company offering this service yet ( tho I think there are ) there will be. No doubt that some saavy company person will see the opportunity here that Google and Yahoo are tossing out with the adult industry and create an Adult PPC.

As to gambling Fabulous.com still offers the best ppc for gambling and it's looking like the ppc bids are rising again. The US's stupid move is not going to be anything but a bump in the road to online gambling. Time will tell for everything. I don't think anyone should hold their breath waiting for afternic's actions changing the face of the domain industry. I personally think their moves might be due to a buy out ( I have no proof to support this feeling ) ... maybe its just that I hope its based on a buy out and not just thrusting "morals" out on to us.

 

[Theo]

Another reason to vote Democrat in 2008 :-D enough with the bible thumping :-D LOL Long live the lifestyle of the Kennedys

j/k

 

[izoot]

Another reason to vote Democrat in 2008 :-D enough with the bible thumping :-D LOL Long live the lifestyle of the Kennedys

j/k

As they say ... the grass is always greener on the other side ... Or is it?

 

[acronym007]

I'm sure these "Porn freaks and Gambling junkies" thank you for kind sympathies.

Where did anyone state they couldn't live without porn or gambling? You seem to be embellishing just a tad for dramatics or maybe projecting some personal issues with these things.

Why do you assume that all those that like looking at some porn or gambling or running those sites are deginerate addicts? Assumptions like that can be troublesome ... especially when many of those trying to pass judgements on those things end up being some of the worst offenders. Pedophile politians/clergy ect. Who never say a word of their indesrestions until they are caught red handed.

Its seems all to often lately that there are those people that will pass judgement on others for doing things, looking at things that they have no interest in or believe is wrong or unheathly. And because THOSE people think Porn and gambling is wrong or unmoral to THEM that means it must be eliminated for all.

The fact is ... like so many attempts to "wipe out" porn, gambling or even smoking its going to fail. Afternic not allowing Porn or Gambling names is not going to shut down the industries ... there are other sales resources and others will pop up to fill that niche.

Many here do have diversified portfolios .. you're making assumptions and trying to define whats right for others.

People get to emotional and forget to read the posts.... My post or posts were generic responses aimed at no one person but an issue or topic. I don't make any assumptions nor do I pass judgement on anyone. I never said I did in any post, REREAD. NO ONE should be offended that I support Afternic's decision any more than I am not offened that anyone hates their decision. iZoot you seem to capturing the dramatics market, REread my posts, I said nothing personal to no one in this thread or forum. Never called anyone an addict, never said people didn't diversify. I said that people should diversify if they have not, that's healthy advice for any industry, it's solid advice for freinds to pass along. My responses were opposite of the popular crowd in this thread, I didn't and wouldn't attack anyone because most of you I disagree with are my freinds. There is no need to attack a person or twist things. I can rewrite all of my statements should anyone be concerned about my commments. Again, I may address a point made or comment but it's not in my spirit to attack a person. I won't attack you as a person, you just have to be sure to read my commnets before you let your emotions get in the way. Best of luck in whatever you do. Cheers,

Acro

 

[RatherGood]

Are there any specialized parking companies that cater to porn other than affiliates?

Searchboxxx.com if you have the volume for their XML feed and can geo-target.

There are no exclusive parking/listing services yet but I am sure one will eventually be born out of necessity.

 

[whitebark]

a parking company had me remove two nasty domains today. That's the second company in a week that asked me to move them somewhere else.

It seems contagious...

 

[izoot]

People get to emotional and forget to read the posts.... My post or posts were generic responses aimed at no one person but an issue or topic. I don't make any assumptions nor do I pass judgement on anyone. I never said I did in any post, REREAD. NO ONE should be offended that I support Afternic's decision any more than I am not offened that anyone hates their decision. iZoot you seem to capturing the dramatics market, REread my posts, I said nothing personal to no one in this thread or forum. Never called anyone an addict, never said people didn't diversify. I said that people should diversify if they have not, that's healthy advice for any industry, it's solid advice for freinds to pass along. My responses were opposite of the popular crowd in this thread, I didn't and wouldn't attack anyone because most of you I disagree with are my freinds. There is no need to attack a person or twist things. I can rewrite all of my statements should anyone be concerned about my commments. Again, I may address a point made or comment but it's not in my spirit to attack a person. I won't attack you as a person, you just have to be sure to read my commnets before you let your emotions get in the way. Best of luck in whatever you do. Cheers,

Acro

Acro ... wasn't a personal response ... but one to your comments/responses ... please don't rewrite your comments/responses that's not necessary.

As your comments/responses were opposite others posted here mine were opposite yours. Call it devils advocate ... whatever

My comments/responses weren't meant to be hostile ... sorry if you took it that way.

But I take issue with companiess or government making moral, social or health related decisions for people instead of letting them make it themselves ... whether those decisions be right or wrong. I am happy to respect others opinions or beliefs as long as they aren't forced on me/others in turn negating our decisions. As adults and business professionals we are entitled to make the right ... or wrong decisions.

a parking company had me remove two nasty domains today. That's the second company in a week that asked me to move them somewhere else.

It seems contagious...

What domains were those?