How do you think about Invest.mobi's finial price?

[namestrands]

I think as domainers we all believe our own bullshit, if push came to shove we would easily step over each other to secure that one premium domain.

.anything is good if people sell to make their life that little bit easier, I have no .mobis and for the moment I dont see me registering any, I have this thing about diversifying until I have mastered at least one Top Level Domain.

I think we all have to agree to disagree on this subject as it is never-ending, well until the .xxx extension comes out and then we will see it all again.

I think its great that some are making sales on the .mobi, the ones that have sold, I offer kudos to the seller, for buying low and selling high; afterall its what this game is all about.

Unfortunetly these threads have the opposite effect with respect to promoting the extension as it just ends in a futile row as to who can piss the farthest.

None of you are wrong, and well none of you are right. The domain industry and the interenet as a whole is built on money for nothing, I can bet there is no domainer here that would not admit to making a stupid investment at least once.

Each of you have your own niche, so own it, love it but come on get over it, we are all kindred spirits.

 

[Domain Jedi]

DJ or is it a case of 'dark propaganda' to try and stop others bidding so that he can get in and pick it up cheaply?

mjnels, Care to comment?

 

[WEBecri]

My opinion, after reading this thread of 4 pages (!):

1.
Go to a shopping mall and ask 1000 people: “do you know .mobi”. Nobody knows it. This .mobi TLD is just 3 month old! Ask the same 1000 people: “Is there a future for internet on mobile devices?” Everybody - and really everybody - answers: “YES, it will be THE future.” (The last months I'm asking these questions all day to almost all the people I spoke with...)

With heavy weights like Google, Microsoft, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Nokia, Samsung, Ericson and with the RFP method of the mTLD, the chances for success will be huge.

2.
Fraudulent transaction of Gamble.mobi???
- What a pity you haven’t access to my bank account…
- I quitted my job last week - and I had a good one! - for the development of my mobi’s. Would I do that without the money?
- I know who the buyer is. He bought more mobi’s and he will buy more. That’s why he has a private whois. I think he wants to buy more…

3.
I did not place a bid on Invest.mobi and I wont do that. BUT. My advice to everyone who hasn’t any good OVT-mobi’s and wants to invest in domains: this is your chance to get a very good ROI. With an OVT of 237,529 this one is really premium.

Good luck in bidding

 

[Iggy]

Back off topic: Does anyone know why whodatdog got banned in the first place? I never found out.

I got banned because I questioned the sale of College.st. It showed up on DnJournal for $11,750 last summer. I asked simple questions like:

"Why does the address in the Whois say Los Angeles when the address is actually in Venice, CA"? Nobody with an address in Venice would make that mistake.

"Why does the person showing up as the registrant not exist in the United States?".

"Why does the name point to the .st registry for 60 days after the sale, until I ask questions then they point it to CommunityCollege.com, who knows nothing about having it pointed there"?

"Why did the Whois change to Private at this time?"

"Why didn't the seller Billbo provide any other proof other than DnJournal confirming that an Escrow.com transaction had been performed".

"Why does Billbo constantly talk about sales in his threads, yet the names still show up in his name weeks later"?

"Why did Billbo start a thread saying he received an inquiry from Qwest about his name Qwe.st.".

"Why does Billbo jump into threads and praise Ron Jackson shortly after the College.st sale was reported at DnJournal".

"Why did nobody stand up and ask simple questions about the College.st sale that was reported".

Here is Billbo's website http://www.lovethename.com/.

Check out all of his started threads, do about 10 minutes of research and then tell me who should have been banned. All I did was ask questions.

Now, they have tag team partners who look up personal info about those who ask questions and then they try to run them off of the board with fear tactics. It doesn't matter as long as they are exposed for what they are.

The College.st transaction was the first time I ever went public with simple questions about a sale, and they all ganged up on me and nobody ever provided any proof about the transaction. Do your research and tell me what you think?

Billbo and his team adversely affected my livelihood because they thought it was outrageous that I wondered why College.st would point to the .st registry for months after the reported sale, while showing Whois information that had no email address, an address in the wrong city, and a sales price that ended up being about ten times highes than sex.st.

Billbo, you got me banned for six months because of that. Do you care to explain the College.st transaction now? Or, are you going to tell me that I cannot prove anything? If a reasonable person feels the college.st transaction is not legit then I should have never been banned.

If it is a fraudulent sale then you should be banned forever. If you get me banned this time around for making critical and legitimate statements then it will be you (and this board) who look bad because all of your posts will be under more of a microscope. You started hinting about ganging up on me earlier in some threads, so you might as well get it over with and try to ban me. As long as they leave these posts up then I can live with it.

My opinion, after reading this thread of 4 pages (!):

1.
Go to a shopping mall and ask 1000 people: “do you know .mobi”. Nobody knows it. This .mobi TLD is just 3 month old! Ask the same 1000 people: “Is there a future for internet on mobile devices?” Everybody - and really everybody - answers: “YES, it will be THE future.” (The last months I'm asking these questions all day to almost all the people I spoke with...)

With heavy weights like Google, Microsoft, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Nokia, Samsung, Ericson and with the RFP method of the mTLD, the chances for success will be huge.

2.
Fraudulent transaction of Gamble.mobi???
- What a pity you haven’t access to my bank account…
- I quitted my job last week - and I had a good one! - for the development of my mobi’s. Would I do that without the money?
- I know who the buyer is. He bought more mobi’s and he will buy more. That’s why he has a private whois. I think he wants to buy more…

3.
I did not place a bid on Invest.mobi and I wont do that. BUT. My advice to everyone who hasn’t any good OVT-mobi’s and wants to invest in domains: this is your chance to get a very good ROI. With an OVT of 237,529 this one is really premium.

Good luck in bidding

I said that Gamble.mobi is a useless name to me. I have stated that I believe College.st to very likely be fraudulent, and I have stated that Sportsbook.mobi seems like a real headscratcher.

I have also stated that it is my belief that there have been many Sedo Auctions that have a fake bid in them...to get it started. I have also stated that I certainly believe that at least a few Escrow.com transactions have been pushed through to prop up an extention. Just read what I said.

 

[mjnels]

mjnels, Interesting post. Aren't you one of the two bidders who bid up Laptops.mobi to over 30k? Now you say you wouldn't even consider 10k for Invest.mobi... How your views on .mobi have changed my friend.

yup, that was me. i sell/repair laptops tho so quite a bit of bias involved there. and not sure if you heard, but the person who outbid me didnt even pay..

all i mean is that I personally wouldnt bid 10k or probably even 5k on invest.mobi..

it IS one of those MEGA keywords and its short, but .mobi is a speculative investment (hey i just used the word there).. so at 5-10k per extremely powerful keyword, i would go broke before i could even buy even a fraction of em.... that and i have some decent keywords from landrush and the days after..it would be a whole nother story if .mobi was a guaranteed success.. i would bet the farm, but we all know that isnt really the case.

.mobi is doing really good, at times i am shocked how well it is doing so early, cant help but ponder the flipside of that..

call me crazy but i tend to like names like your MusicVideos.mobi more than Invest.mobi... i focused on similar things and have one similar to music videos, but i think that one is pretty hard to beat..

i think one of the first mainstream things to hit big and i mean REALLY big is mobile TV and mobile video streaming/rental/sharing something along those lines.. mobile tv already exists but not everyone knows about it yet let alone has it in their pocket..

GPS also will likely be one of the first useful things to catch onto mobilephones before everyone and their mom has something like the iPhone...


the evolution of computers goes:

bigass room filled with machines > desktops > laptops > that little futuristic device that most everyone will carry with them and it does everything....and oh yea, makes phones calls too.

mobile internet is inevitable, it will become commonplace sometime in the future.. and so far other TLD's have been able to exist in their own niche.. it seems like .mobi fits the niche, but only time will tell..

 

[PRED]

yup, that was me. i sell/repair laptops tho so quite a bit of bias involved there. and not sure if you heard, but the person who outbid me didnt even pay..

all i mean is that I personally wouldnt bid 10k or probably even 5k on invest.mobi..

it IS one of those MEGA keywords and its short, but .mobi is a speculative investment (hey i just used the word there).. so at 5-10k per extremely powerful keyword, i would go broke before i could even buy even a fraction of em.... that and i have some decent keywords from landrush and the days after..it would be a whole nother story if .mobi was a guaranteed success.. i would bet the farm, but we all know that isnt really the case.

.mobi is doing really good, at times i am shocked how well it is doing so early, cant help but ponder the flipside of that..

call me crazy but i tend to like names like your MusicVideos.mobi more than Invest.mobi... i focused on similar things and have one similar to music videos, but i think that one is pretty hard to beat..

i think one of the first mainstream things to hit big and i mean REALLY big is mobile TV and mobile video streaming/rental/sharing something along those lines.. mobile tv already exists but not everyone knows about it yet let alone has it in their pocket..

GPS also will likely be one of the first useful things to catch onto mobilephones before everyone and their mom has something like the iPhone...


the evolution of computers goes:

bigass room filled with machines > desktops > laptops > that little futuristic device that most everyone will carry with them and it does everything....and oh yea, makes phones calls too.

mobile internet is inevitable, it will become commonplace sometime in the future.. and so far other TLD's have been able to exist in their own niche.. it seems like .mobi fits the niche, but only time will tell..

don't want to sound like a yes man, but i'll agree with all of that
it's one of the angles i look at it all.
Pred

 

[broe-foe]

I got banned because I questioned of the sale of College.st. It showed up on DnJournal for $11,750 last summer. I asked simple questions like:

"Why does the address in the Whois say Los Angeles when the address is actually in Venice, CA"? Nobody with an address in Venice would make that mistake.

"Why does the person showing up as the registrant not exist in the United States?".


Venice is a community in Los Angeles County, California (CA).

 

[Domain Jedi]

mjnels, Thank you for clarifying your position. I am still willing to donate 1,000 F$ towards the Sir.Mobi User ID cause. k:

 

[mjnels]

mjnels, Thank you for clarifying your position. I am still willing to donate 1,000 F$ towards the Sir.Mobi User ID cause. k:

haha.. i think columbani signed up here last month, the guy has WAY more names than me and dare i say, better quality ones too.. thats who really wins the award, i have too many L-L and NNNN to really be counted..

 

[PRED]

mjnels, Thank you for clarifying your position. I am still willing to donate 1,000 F$ towards the Sir.Mobi User ID cause. k:

LOL I tried tbh Yoda! he won't have it. I awarded him a medal as chief harvester instead for 2006.
Maybe another gift from the vb store for just $dnf 500?
you can add the comment 'sir mobi'.
they even do dildos now! lol :lol: maybe we'll save that for Iggy? lol
Pred

 

[Iggy]

I got banned because I questioned of the sale of College.st. It showed up on DnJournal for $11,750 last summer. I asked simple questions like:

"Why does the address in the Whois say Los Angeles when the address is actually in Venice, CA"? Nobody with an address in Venice would make that mistake.

"Why does the person showing up as the registrant not exist in the United States?".


Venice is a community in Los Angeles County, California (CA).

And I live 5 minutes away. Nobody in Venice would list the address as Los Angeles. That is just one piece of the puzzle, though. The bottom line is that nothing checked out. Rotten sale that many people enabled. I enjoyed my ban. It was for a good reason. The board went to hell after that.....nobody willing to step up.

If they ban me again then at least Billbo, and many of these suspicious sales will be looked at more closely. They should at least keep these posts up.

Didn't someone above just say that they were a bidder in the Laptop.mob sale that went up to 30K I believe. And they said that the buyer disappeared, and yet it wasn't sold to the next bidder?

It figures. It's not that complicated to see what is happening.

 

[PRED]

Didn't someone above just say that they were a bidder in the laptop.mob sale that went up to 30K I believe. And they said that the buyer disappeared, and yet it wasn't sold to the next bidder?

It figures. It's no that complicated to see what is happening.

Of course it wasn't sold to him, he wasn't the 'winning bidder'. :greenconfused:
The winning bidder didn't pay for a reason. We don't know what that was. However the key mistake you are making is that of course the second highest bidder wouldn't want to buy it. He would feel that the winning bidder took the price higher & he may get a better chance next time.
The point is sedo/afternic etc need to tighten up their procedures for verification.. There used to be none for goodness sake, but it needs to get tighter for all of our interests.
The two members you have isolated are highly regarded individuals on this forum who give a lot every day.
You seem to have nothing but a negative outlook on almost everything. You probably think you are smart, but are actually a misguided cynic.
THINK before you post, please.
Pred

 

[mjnels]

Of course it wasn't sold to him, he wasn't the 'winning bidder'. :greenconfused:
The winning bidder didn't pay for a reason. We don't know what that was. However the key mistake you are making is that of course the second highest bidder wouldn't want to buy it. He would feel that the winning bidder took the price higher & he may get a better chance next time.
The point is sedo/afternic etc need to tighten up their procedures for verification.. There used to be none for goodness sake, but it needs to get tighter for all of our interests.
The two members you have isolated are highly regarded individuals on this forum who give a lot every day.
You seem to have nothing but a negative outlook on almost everything. You probably think you are smart, but are actually a misguided cynic.
THINK before you post, please.
Pred

exactly.. afternic called me and asked me if i wanted it... i declined. as far as i know the name is NOT being offered for sale again in an open auction.

 

[Iggy]

exactly.. afternic called me and asked me if i wanted it... i declined. as far as i know the name is NOT being offered for sale again in an open auction.

Of course. Thanks for clearing that up. Makes sense to me. Another disappearing bidder, then all of the other "bidders" suddenly lose interest. You are just shooting yourselves in the foot.

Usually, in legitimate auctions, the losing bidder looks for any opening to try to get the name. If he/she senses that the "winning" bidder isn't paying fast enough, or not at all, then this person tries to buy it.

This tends to be the case with good names in good extentions. You are answering my questions perfectly. Keep it coming. I like the disappearing bidder stories where everyone loses interest once the sucker isn't found. It's good stuff.

 

[mjnels]

Of course. Thanks for clearing that up. Makes sense to me. Another disappearing bidder, then all of the other "bidders" suddenly lose interest. You are just shooting yourselves in the foot.

Usually, in legitimate auctions, the losing bidder looks for any opening to try to get the name. If he/she senses that the "winning" bidder isn't paying fast enough, or not at all, then this person tries to buy it.

This tends to be the case with good names in good extentions. You are answering my questions perfectly. keep it coming.

Right.


2 minutes till closing auction is at $2,000.

20 minutes later its $32,900 a difference of 30k between only 2 people.


Would you pay $32,800 after the ONLY guy that outbid you backed out.
be careful with your answer..

 

[Iggy]

Of course it wasn't sold to him, he wasn't the 'winning bidder'. :greenconfused:
The winning bidder didn't pay for a reason. We don't know what that was. However the key mistake you are making is that of course the second highest bidder wouldn't want to buy it. He would feel that the winning bidder took the price higher & he may get a better chance next time.
The point is sedo/afternic etc need to tighten up their procedures for verification.. There used to be none for goodness sake, but it needs to get tighter for all of our interests.
The two members you have isolated are highly regarded individuals on this forum who give a lot every day.
You seem to have nothing but a negative outlook on almost everything. You probably think you are smart, but are actually a misguided cynic.
THINK before you post, please.
Pred

I regard Billbo at the low end of the range. Unless he wants to convince a reasonable person that the College.st sale was legitimate. Something like an email from the buyer inquiring about the name, or verification from someone at CommunityCollege.com that they bought the name last summer for $11,750 and decided to point the name to a .St sales page for months, before finally deciding to forward it to their site.

Check the threads that Billbo has started (before he deletes them). Spend a few minutes asking questions, or do a little research, and you will see that there is a reason for that belief. Now, Billbo has come to the defense of outrageous dotmobi sales, so I will be keeping an eye on him to make sure he doesn't have a hand in any shenanigans.

Hopefully, people will keep a closer eye on these Auction and Sales announcements. I will be quiet as a mouse once the fraud stops.

Right.


2 minutes till closing auction is at $2,000.

20 minutes later its $32,900 a difference of 30k between only 2 people.


Would you pay $32,800 after the ONLY guy that outbid you backed out.
be careful with your answer..

You should be prepared to pay whatever your high bid is, unless the auction is a fraud. If that is the case then you continue to prove my point. If the auction is a fraud then people need to stop using it as "a selling point" for their other crap names.

 

[mjnels]

You should be prepared to pay whatever your high bid is, unless the auction is a fraud. If that is the case then you continue to prove my point. If the auction is a fraud then people need to stop using it as "a selling point" for their other crap names.

mmm hmmm... you didnt answer my question from a buyer standpoint.

and im SURE you will correct someone if they refer to it being sold, you seem to think you are the police or 'keeper of all truth'

you flaunt your opinions as facts, good luck living life like that.

 

[Iggy]

mmm hmmm... you didnt answer my question from a buyer standpoint.

and im SURE you will correct someone if they refer to it being sold, you seem to think you are the police or 'keeper of all truth'

you flaunt your opinions as facts, good luck living life like that.

You have stated as fact that you made a bid in an auction for Laptops.mobi that went over 30K. The buyer disappeared (happens a lot with this extention), and now no other bidder is interested (also happens a lot).

You can use the O.J. Simpson defense all you want. I don't have to "Prove" anything in order to have a strong suspicion that it happened. I am also allowed to state my strong beliefs, just as you are allowed to be a cheerleader for an extention that I deem as useless. Seems fair to me.

 

[mjnels]

You have stated as fact that you made a bid in an auction for Laptops.mobi that went over 30K. The buyer disappeared (happens a lot with this extention), and now no other bidder is interested (also happens a lot).

You can use the O.J. Simpson defense all you want. I don't have to "Prove" anything in order to have a strong suspicion that it happened. I am also allowed to state my strong beliefs, just as you are allowed to be a cheerleader for an extention that I deem as useless. Seems fair to me.

heh, you have just proven yourself retarded.

Go back to policing... here, you can have your baton back now.

 

[Bill Roy]

MJ, thanks, you know now who he is going to turn his attention to now don't you! :greensleep:

Ooops! Sorry nearly fell asleep there.

Let's just say, hopefully today will be the end of it.