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[AlienGG]

Correct.



Well then lets just call it a natural talent.

He did have other choices.

Rubbish, the link was posted here by VC, and without realising it I actually quoted him and the link here:

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1208045#post1208045

the link was only actually removed from my post a few hours ago.

The access log shows that the page was access before he posted it.

 

[Duckinla]

It's not under duress, fraud or undue influence. It was up to Donnacha's own discretion to accept it or not.

So you are saying you also offered to give hime back his property without signing the agreement? BS. If you don't consider holding someones property as hostage to be duress, what do you consider to be duress? You have shown yourself to be quite an unsavory piece of work through this process.

You're not in a position to demand. You give people back their property and you beg their forgiveness, that's it.

 

[Sender]

Can someone finally ban this idiot from this site?

He did have other choices.

There are only two ways I will send the codes directly to you without accepting the agreement.
1. I am crazy.
2. You point a loaded gun at me.

You either accept it and take the domain from me forever, or leave it and do whatever you like. I do not want to fight against you but I do need a purpose to push the domain to you.

What other "choices" were there? Why are you even arguing with a lawyer?

 

[Johnn]

I did mention before. Adam should have a long term solution for this mental crook.

 

[AlienGG]

Can someone finally ban this idiot from this site?





What other "choices" were there? Why are you even arguing with a lawyer?

Those were for me to send the codes to him. He didn't have to complete the transfer this way.

So you are saying you also offered to give hime back his property without signing the agreement? BS. If you don't consider holding someones property as hostage to be duress, what do you consider to be duress? You have shown yourself to be quite an unsavory piece of work through this process.

You're not in a position to demand. You give people back their property and you beg their forgiveness, that's it.

I've always wanted to give it to him. As I mentioned, I was unhappy with the way he threatened me with a C&D. I was not holding his property as hostage.

If you are in my situation you will understand. It was me who had no choice but to ask for signing the agreement.

I agreed to transfer the name to him as soon as the service was found not legit. I am a victim too. And asking for signing the agreement was just to get over and be done with it. It's a bad memory. I know my reputation here is hard to recover, but I just hope that I can at least move on and have everything back on normal for everyone. Ultimately, Donnacha did receive the name as promised. That's what he wants.

 

[Duckinla]

I was not holding his property as hostage.

Goodbye.

 

[Mr. Deleted]

Just a note everyone: VC did never go to that link.

 

[scrsteven]

Just read this entertaining and sad thread. Here's my input of PM's exchanged for painkillers.com. He sent me a message thru one of my wanted posts, on 5-12-07.

Originally Posted by AlienGG
In Reply to your Post High traffic generic domains, type-in:

Painkillers.com
$950,000 firm

Johnson & Johnson owns Analgesic.com. Analgesic is the technical term for painkillers, but most people recognize painkillers rather than analgesic.

Stats: http://mashup.com/temp/painkillers.jpg
97% type-in
3% organic with search term "www.painkillers.com"
No linked traffic

OVT:
66 painkillers.com
..(and more ovt shown)

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my response:
Great name, but the price is way out there. $950k for a name that earns $1.20 a day? ... That's about a 2169 year payback period, not accounting for interest.
This is the type of name I am looking for but not the price. Thank you for having an actual good name as opposed to some of the dgagadga.net I get PM'd, but alas I don't think we'll be able to reach a deal.

Steven
p.s. If you are paying even 1/10 of that, like 200 year payback period for great generics, I have some you might like.
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his response:
Steven,

This is something that revenue can't measure.
Johnson & Johnson has shown their interest in this name. We are looking for a 7-figure deal with them, but I know this will be lengthy which I can't wait at this moment.
Anyway, thanks for getting back to me.
will be in touch.

Grant
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Pretty funny stuff. He was in a hurry to sell the name supposedly. I hope he will be banned from the forum soon.

 

[Focus]

I made some pretty strong offers on this one at sedo...suprised he did'nt sell it! lol greed will get you everytime!

forgive me , but first he bought these from the chick and supposingly showed receipts for such and then what exactly happened, and then returned the names to her? I still don't get this whole event with the ever changing story...someone care to summarize so we don't have to go back and sift thru the BS?

 

[AlienGG]

Painkillers was already back to Susan when I offered it for sale. Susan told me she would not sell it for any price so I was not hoping getting any result for it. I know it sounds stupid but my offers and counter offers were just to give myself an idea about the market for a generic type-in domain. I was in talk with Susan in the late April and transferred the name to her around May 1st.

Just a note everyone: VC did never go to that link.

Whatever it was. Donnacha or his representative etc... There are too many things to argue.
But anyway, Donnacha has received the domain as promised. Let's move on and get everything back to normal.

 

[Focus]

Painkillers was already back to Susan when I offered it for sale. Susan told me she would not sell it for any price so I was not hoping getting any result for it. I know it sounds stupid but my offers and counter offers were just to give myself an idea about the market for a generic type-in domain. I was in talk with Susan in the late April and transferred the name to her around May 1st.

Back to her? I don't get it dude...and why the hell would you offer something for sale in sedo if you did not own it? What if I or someone else agreed to an asking price? Then what? This story is like swiss cheese. You have been flying the name in your signature here on DNF until a few days ago...did you not just give it back? None of this makes any sense..

 

[tas38]

This is one long thread, took lots of time to read.

I'm not sure what happen, but this far into this they have been talking about how many different domains. The bottom line is everyone got the name back, we got some hot heads that can't see right some times.

The law is not going to do anything, as the domains have been returned to their rightful owners. And it's not worth the trouble, when they got so much to do, for people that lost lots and have not got any thing back.

I sit and ponder these things......

Why did he let his beloved name, get so close to expiring in the first place. And why would he have use a hotmail email, that they did not use very much anyways. Live and learn and be happy you got the name back, if you can prove GG did indeed take the name. Then you can get him kick off the forum, I'll admit it don't look good for GG but you have not proved that yet, only that GG had the name and wanted to give it back long ago.

And why would you not take it back long ago, did you really think the FBI or anyone for that matter. Was really going to put them in jail for it, sorry but that is highly unlikely to ever happen. The best you can do, is get the place where you had to to take it back for you. And then they will be likely, to not tell you much and just give it back.

I had got a name off some one a few years back, the place where they guy had it. Put the name into my enom account, like the owner directed him to after I paid. Well he put it into my account, then took it back and did not reply to emails or phone calls. I find that enom was not very helpful, so I asked others about what to do. I was told if enom would not do anything, I was pretty much out of luck.

Well I read lots of enom TOS, at any rate I called them again and they was not very helpful. I then demanded they frezze the name, as it still had my info untill what time they knew, the info would be updated for sure. And to record my demand, and that I would call and email from my email. That they put the name, into the records email holders name at that time.

Well a few hours later, the name was put backing into my enom account. They had a ph# to get ahold of the guy, and it was not the ph# that me or the sellers had for him. My guess is some one at enom, was friends with the guy that took my name. And he called him and told him, that I was going to go to Icann and they would be in trouble.

My point here is, that just be happy the names was returned. And if some takes your name, make sure to hold the place it was taken from accountable. It's not their fault it was taken may be, but they need to do everything they can to recover it for you. And they are accountable for doing that, and you need to make sure they know that.

GG if you take the names, then shame on you and I hope you learned. That you can not get away with it most times, and if you got if from people that had taken it. Then you done the right thing, by giving them back to there rightful owners. But next time, give them from the register where they was taken from. You would not need a agreement then, as they would return it to the rightful owner. And not tell them very much at all, plus if some thing goes wrongs, then they have to deal with it.

 

[fab]

Whatever it was. Donnacha or his representative etc... There are too many things to argue.
But anyway, Donnacha has received the domain as promised. Let's move on and get everything back to normal.

If you want to go on. I would highly recommend making a real agreement with VC, i.e., a written one, signed "without any catches". Pay him his costs, whatever he asks for, plus a penalty fee for his damages, I would offer $500 (peanuts) and learn your lesson.

 

[tas38]

I would not pay him anything, he messed up as well here and better had learn some thing from it. Letting your name get with in one day of expiring is not good, if he had not taken it the register would have pretty soon. Using a known hackable hotmail email is bad, and no one ever does that just because of that reason.

He could of had the domain back, some time ago but let his hot head stop him. Anyone that is into domains, know if some one takes your domain. Then send it's back to you, you take it back then charge your accounts password fast. I think both should of learn some thing from this, well let us hope they did as most of us was reminded of it just reading it.

 

[Duckinla]

He could of had the domain back, some time ago but let his hot head stop him.

You are not very good at seeing through Grants lies and bullshit. He has changed his story repeatedly and his reasonings are so contrived and ludicrous. Why would you believe anything he says?

 

[victimlesscrime]

1. MY domain is in my account, yes.
2. As John Berryhill pointed out, the "agreement" does not apply.
3. Check your IP logs, I never went near your URL.

Now, here is my advice to you and you would be wise to take it on board.
Never EVER contact me again and don't try any funny business.
I reserve the right to file charges and seek damages.
If I decide not to do so, you will have gotten out of this very very lightly.
Know when you've been lucky, walk away and stay very quiet.

Your IP was logged in the theft. Your credit card was used to renew. If you continue to insist that you used a service, the only explanation that can accommodate all 3 things is that you run the service. I don't think you want THAT to be proven.

For now, I'm pleased to have my domain back and IF YOU TAKE THE ADVICE ABOVE that's how this should end between us. As for all the other trouble you've gotten yourself into with Susan etc, I can't say how that will end and it seems now that the FBI will be involved. I wouldn't like to be in your shoes right now.

As for being prepared to offer me back the domain weeks ago, please allow me to quote you on the subject from one of your emails:

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"If the name meant a big deal to you, you would keep your eyes on it and never let it expire. In fact, you didn't renew it and you accepted the expiration of the name voluntarily. You gave up the name, and now you regret for your own mistake. We warn you, you are potentially engaged in a REVERSE DOMAIN HIJACKING attempt!"

"We are extremely aggressive in pursuing charges for reverse domain hijackings. We have no objection for you to file a UDRP against us. However, we are sure that you will deeply regret for doing so."
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[fab]

I would not pay him anything, he messed up as well here and better had learn some thing from it. Letting your name get with in one day of expiring is not good, if he had not taken it the register would have pretty soon. Using a known hackable hotmail email is bad, and no one ever does that just because of that reason.

He could of had the domain back, some time ago but let his hot head stop him. Anyone that is into domains, know if some one takes your domain. Then send it's back to you, you take it back then charge your accounts password fast. I think both should of learn some thing from this, well let us hope they did as most of us was reminded of it just reading it.

AlienGG commited a crime. If someone doesn't lock his front door, it doesn't give a thief the right to break into his house.

 

[PRED]

Hey could have saved all this hassle & just bought Paracetamols.com lol

 

[AlienGG]

Back to her? I don't get it dude...and why the hell would you offer something for sale in sedo if you did not own it? What if I or someone else agreed to an asking price? Then what? This story is like swiss cheese. You have been flying the name in your signature here on DNF until a few days ago...did you not just give it back? None of this makes any sense..

It's not just me. A LOT of people offer names for sale at sedo even thought they don't own them. It's Sedo's flaw to allow any name to be entered to the accounts. If I were to do a quick sale, I would have pushed it to auction.
I asked Susan several times to change the DNS to something other than Parked because it was not reset to default GoDaddy server after it was pushed. She told me she knew what to do, but eventually she didn't. I just told her again last week, but it's still pointing to Parked. I think it's pretty reasonable to advertise Parked affiliate with such a name. It's the truth. Susan has her names. JP can confirm that.

 

[tas38]

( AlienGG commited a crime. If someone doesn't lock his front door, it doesn't give a thief the right to break into his house. )

Yes he did but so do 1000's of others online, ebay had 100,000 taken from buyers right out rip offs. They will not go after them or do anything, it's to much trouble to have other states in it. The fact is the FBI is not going to do anything, they get 1000's of reports all the time it's just that simple.

No he should not have taken it, just because he left his door open. But how many of us let the door open, when no one is home to watch the house. If he wants to deal in domains, he needs to learn fast or get some one that can take care of them. He did not ask for it, but he did play apart in it just the same.

I hope that GG learned not to try pulling this stuff, as there is no way it will pass water. As soon as the owner find outs, they will have it tracked down back to them. And don't lie about it, because the more you lie the worst it gets. Stealing is not a very good thing I know, and it would be nice if the law handled, it as if they broke into some ones house and took stuff.

But lets face it they are not going to, about 4 years some one smash my car window. Parked in a parking lot, where many people could see and hear such things living there. I called the cops and they come, my stereo was taken but the cops did not ask anyone if they seen anything at all. I was upset about the window, as I knew it would be a real pain replacing it and it was.

The answer is good people like in this forum, taken people to task about stuff like this. And hopefully others see this, and will help the next time and after a while, people learn they can not get away with it and will be taken to task. And people will learn to not make it easy, for them to take their domains. Shut the door and lock it, and take people to task that may have taken a domain it's that simple.