Dot INFO - Fall from Grace

[Tedgeman]

Info,s though slightly more interesting than other country tlds, will be very slow to gain serious respect to a brandable extension. Most buyers would and have bought .com first, .net second, .org third and pick anything you want after that its all about marketing and search engine power.
Oh just found out from NS i got an info, they wanted to let me know to renew. LOL first I heard I even owned it Maybe a few jewel infos but mostly garbage....
Sorry, no support for info here.

 

[DryHeat]

IMO, one of the most pervasive flaws in these type of arguments is that the prospects of any newer extension are automatically pitted against .com....why so? No one is his senses would argue against .com's dominance but are we saying that .com is IT...nothing else would ever be needed and no newer extension would ever have a chance to have its day in the cyber space? Is that even possible? Has that ever happened in any area of life in the history of mankind? Has status quo ever lasted for ever?

 

[gmac17]

I'm bullish on .info, but only for generics.

SportsCars.info is a great name

SportsCarPlanet.info is a terrible name

 

[JuniperPark]

I'm bullish on .info, but only for generics.

SportsCars.info is a great name

SportsCarPlanet.info is a terrible name

Agreed. More importantly to the end-user/buyer:

SportsCars.info for $1,000 is a great keyword name purchase for an end user, one that will do well in seach engines.

SportsCars.com for $100,000 is a waste of about $99,000 for a name that will fare no better than the pervious name in search engines, and a nice profit for the name reseller.

(prices a guestimate for example purposes only - I don't own those names.)

 

[DryHeat]

(prices a guestimate for example purposes only - I don't own those names.)

I do....one of them...SportsCars.info...I am not selling it for just $1K though... :cheeky:

 

[JuniperPark]

I do....one of them...SportsCars.info...I am not selling it for just $1K though... :cheeky:

Shhhh... you're proving the title of this thread to be incorrect!

 

[freestyler]

I am bullish on .info as well. We'll know in a couple of years time!

 

[izopod]

I am bullish on .info as well. We'll know in a couple of years time!

Priceless!

 

[Keynes]

I am bullish on .info as well. We'll know in a couple of years time!

I agree, and I echo the comments above about generics as holding the key undeveloped value in the .info space. It is important to note, though, that a lot of names have been successful using .info and SEO, and the savings over a .com are important for a site primarily working through SE rather than direct/branding traffic.

 

[Rubber Duck]

I agree, and I echo the comments above about generics as holding the key undeveloped value in the .info space. It is important to note, though, that a lot of names have been successful using .info and SEO, and the savings over a .com are important for a site primarily working through SE rather than direct/branding traffic.

No argument there! I think dot info will always provide a cheap alternative.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[DryHeat]

I think dot info will always provide a cheap alternative.

IMO, one can reasonably argue that just like .org, .info should not be considered a replacement for and hence in direct competition with .com....the ones trying to get their share in the same category (commerce, business, branding) as .com are primarily the ccTLDs followed by .biz.

ccTLDs and particularly .biz do provide a much less expensive alternative to .com in many cases but in many others the .com version is simply not just available being used by an established entity. Then, in terms of ccTLDs, there are situations where they are given preference over .com, for instance .de, and all the indications are there that this trend is likely to strengthen over time.

So, at the end, I believe that .com will remain the most coveted generic extension for commercial and business usage on a global level but that ccTLDs will continue to gain importance and market share in individual countries....this trend will accelerate with the introduction of .eu later this year and .asia down the road. I also believe that newer TLDs like .info will further establish and solidify their role and share in the domain market.....this latter process will get strengthened by the introduction of .XXX and sTLDs such as .mobi and .travel helping increase overall awareness that time has come where the characters to the right of the dot have a specific meaning and purpose. And, if you really think about it....its just the logical next step in the evolution, maturity, and categorization of the Internet.

 

[namewaiter]

part of the problem with the newer tlds is that a majority of the great generics are owned by resellers who probably won't develop them. it's a catch 22, they want them to hold this great value but the only way this will happen is when the public sees enough of the tld to become mainsteam and hike up the supply and demand.

 

[DryHeat]

part of the problem with the newer tlds is that a majority of the great generics are owned by resellers who probably won't develop them. it's a catch 22, they want them to hold this great value but the only way this will happen is when the public sees enough of the tld to become mainsteam and hike up the supply and demand.

True...but the same thing happened with every new tld introduction since that time such as .BIZ, .US, .CN and .IN and now you'd see that with .EU and with .XXX whenever that is introduced; the release of this latter one will be really fun to watch. The only reason it did not happen (as much) with older tlds is that for several years after they're introduced no one really knew/cared about the Interent in general and domains in particular. The only way of avoiding this from now on is the introduction of sTLDs with stringently enforced registration criteria and steep reg fees.

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

If I hand reg 100 .info domains for $500. Do you think I can sell them for $1000?

If I can get an average of just $20 per .info domain, that's $2000, a $1500 profit on $500.

Sounds like a profit to me.

Who cares if they are not .com

 

[DryHeat]

If I hand reg 100 .info domains for $500. Do you think I can sell them for $1000?
If I can get an average of just $20 per .info domain, that's $2000, a $1500 profit on $500.
Sounds like a profit to me.

May be....!! Speculative domains are to be truly regged in the first few hours/days of a tld's introduction ("landrush")....you can still get nice names after that but the likelihood of them ALL selling at a profit in the aftermarket goes down very substantially after this initial period.

 

[Rubber Duck]

If I hand reg 100 .info domains for $500. Do you think I can sell them for $1000?

If I can get an average of just $20 per .info domain, that's $2000, a $1500 profit on $500.

Sounds like a profit to me.

Who cares if they are not .com

Personally, if all I can get is $20 per domain, its not worth the risk, time and grief.

Anything, less than $100 clear is damage limitation!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

True...but the same thing happened with every new tld introduction since that time such as .BIZ, .US, .CN and .IN and now you'd see that with .EU and with .XXX whenever that is introduced; the release of this latter one will be really fun to watch. The only reason it did not happen (as much) with older tlds is that for several years after they're introduced no one really knew/cared about the Interent in general and domains in particular. The only way of avoiding this from now on is the introduction of sTLDs with stringently enforced registration criteria and steep reg fees.

Sorry, but it is exactly that which has so badly hampered the adoption of dot biz. Dot jp and dot cn are also suffering because of excessive fees.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[DryHeat]

Personally, if all I can get is $20 per domain, its not worth the risk, time and grief.
Anything, less than $100 clear is damage limitation!
Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

Not just that but as I noted the reality of the domain aftermarket is such that the probability of selling 100% (or even 50%) of your 100 hand-regged names (that are available years after the TLD's introduction) in the aftermarket are pretty darn slim.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Not just that but as I noted the reality of the domain aftermarket is such that the probability of selling 100% (or even 50%) of your 100 hand-regged names (that are available years after the TLD's introduction) in the aftermarket are pretty darn slim.

Yes, even what appeared to be good drops are often dropped again in a couple of years, because there is little point in keeping them.

I think that even a good portfolio, you have to mentally write-off half the domains, as you will never see the money back unless you are one of those specialist who can either determine traffic before purchase or develop domains so that they receive traffic. Of course the later involves more time and expense. This time would certainly be better spent enhancing the value of the successful purchases rather than trying to revive the dead meat!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[JuniperPark]

... And for those who have given up on your .info's, sell 'em to me!

 

[Rubber Duck]

... And for those who have given up on your .info's, sell 'em to me!

Well the first person to send $100 to my paypal account can have the only dot info I have as a speculative investment.

internetbingo.info

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

Well the first person to send $100 to my paypal account can have the only dot info I have as a speculative investment.

internetbingo.info

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

What no takers?

It does 212 with the dot com extension and 36 together and 22546 with the space on Overture.

If this was a dot com and the price was $1000, I would have been killed in the rush!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon